Welded aluminum shell of a cab car | Front cab shell at right | Intermediate car, after paint |
Maybe if those trade sanctions kick in, they won't have anywhere to go?
The passage of California Proposition 1A (2008) set in motion a complete reconstruction of the railroad between San Jose and San Francisco. This blog exists to discuss compatibility between HSR and Caltrain, integration issues, and the impact on adjoining communities.
Welded aluminum shell of a cab car | Front cab shell at right | Intermediate car, after paint |
The Swiss will likely not participate in any EU or US sanctions against Russia. So these trains are unlikely to become stranded in Switzerland.
ReplyDeleteThat said, this is and always has been a fantastic idea. These trains are 3400mm wide, which is very similar to some of the off-the-shelf Shinkansen rolling stock, many of which range between 3350 and 3385mm.
Of course, since Stadler took an existing design and widened it to Russian specs, other manufacturers could certainly do the same for Caltrain. But the fact that Stadler already has an off-the-shelf design can only drive costs down, not up. As anybody who has ever ridden on one of the wider Shinkansen trains will tell you, wider trans are pretty much indisputably better. 2+2 configurations are superbly roomy, and even 3+2 configurations are perfectly servicable for most situations.
Russian suburban trains have 3+3 seating, and even that is perfectly doable (and feels roomier than 3+2 on the MBTA bilevels).
DeleteAnd in other news: Caltrain electrification RFQ issued
ReplyDeleteLooks very promising. Stadler should get it.
ReplyDeleteNot going to happen.
Delete1. Buy American. Buy high price, buy low quality.
2. LTK Engineering Services, Inc. Contract will go to the company that needs the greatest LTK follow-up "advice" on designing, building, testing trains. See: SMART.
Note Stadler was not represented at Caltrain's recent "CalMod Industry Day". Titans in Industry such as VTA's Jim Lawson and CHSRA's Tripousis were there, alongside all the squirmy wriggling mass bottom feeders from ARUP, AECOM, Balfour Beatty, PBQD, STV, Atkins, R Systems, Hatch Mott, PTG, HNTB, CH2M, AEI, Jacobs, but no Stadler Rail. Sumitomo, Altsom, Siemens, Kawasaki, yes. No Bombardier, either, oddly.
It's not rail engineering that wins contracts. It is "contract engineering" and kickbackery. No bright red Swiss trains for you! Please to be enjoying finest stainless steel LTK specifications.
Speaking about the width of trains, France just discovered a problem requiring platforms to be modified:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cnn.com/2014/05/21/travel/france-trains-sncf/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/10845789/French-rail-company-order-2000-trains-too-wide-for-platforms.html
The bad part is that it happened and what it says about RFF. ("C’est d’abord le résultat d’une organisation qui est plus le résultat de nombreux compromis en commençant par politiques que de l’efficacité cohérente du métier de l’organisation industrielle performante." ... "Un deuxième niveau de réflexion est sur la qualité des hommes et des équipes." ... etc)
DeleteThe mitigation is that platform improvements are due anyway, if not forced at this rate. And consider that the mooted EUR50m of immediate work required, nation-wide, for immediate platform fixes wouldn't even pay for Caltrain to write the RFQ to develop proposals to set a timetable to study the train-platform interface at its grand total of 26 stations.
PS Please no Tory Terrorgraph links! There are children reading.
No Daily Torygraph links, there are adults reading.
DeleteEh, the Torygraph is at least a serious newspaper, sort of. But Americans who do not know much about British media - like, say, most of my Facebook feed - sometimes share stories from the Daily Heil as if it were a real newspaper.
DeleteWhile this is definitely fodder for the press, the costs involved are fairly minuscule. Caltrain spent $35 million to gussy up all of two stations in Palo Alto. I could imagine that it would cost them at least $4 million to redo just one platform.
DeleteThat puts the tab for level boarding at roughly $250 million - one sixth of the electrification project. Remember level boarding provides half the trip time benefit of electrification, so a sixth of the cost ain't too shabby even at our inflated prices.
And remember, Caltrain knows a thing or two about building lots of platforms-- they've totally rebuilt at least fifty platforms in the last 20 years. That tally would actually make a fun post...
Blah, this all looks like a controlled hysteria to support recent proposal for re-merging infrastructure owner and train operator back into single company - http://www.globalrailnews.com/2013/10/17/french-rail-reform-bill-announced/
DeleteAFAIK, there is total around 8000 platforms in France, and only 1300 aren't compatible with new trains, and they are to be rebuild anyway (they violates network-wide loading gauge, accepted 30 years ago), and trains are due to start revenue service in 2016...
Clem,
ReplyDeleteyou really have a bee in your bonnet about this, don't you?
Why don't you advocate Russian track gauge, too? It's equally nonsensical and equally fantastic (in the original sense).